Tupac... Alive or dead?

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Postby admin » Thu Nov 09, 2000 8:51 pm

so what does everyone think?

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Postby pacgirl » Wed Dec 20, 2000 2:11 am

Hey what's up all 2pac fanz?
I think that it's impossible 4 tupac 2 be alive! Why? Because where he would hide himself - his family - friends - cops... But I red all 2pac theories: the number 7 - video clips - Niccolo Machiavelli - how he talk about faking his own death in his songs... all those reasons can make him really alive... but we all wish that pac would still be alive! but now his gone 4 an other world better.... i hope soo ;O)
P.S. I'm a french speaker maybe u don't understand my english soo well .... sorry!
Also i wanna know if u can post the old archive about 2pac (all archive will be better) because i luv to read those facts!
c yah
peace

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Postby ATXGIRL » Tue Dec 26, 2000 12:05 am

Hey,
I really believe he's dead. At first I didn't want to believe it, but now I do. Like another reader said, where would he be? He can cover up that good. But yes, I think he's dead.


R.I.P Tupak Shakur

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Postby Crave » Thu Jan 11, 2001 3:03 pm

Um, how many artists make videos for unreleased tracks?

My bestfriend owns this book, the one that features an autopsy, she swears that one of the tattoos are in the wrong place.

She also claims she heard him on this new CD she got rapping about Whitney's drug addiction & Bill Clinton & Monica.

Also where did all of his money go?

I was told that Makaveli is the name of an artist who faked his own death.

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Postby 2PAC » Tue Jan 23, 2001 1:50 am

Is it worth for a man to gain the world but to loose his soul? No. My man Pac has passed away, but in my heart he is still alive; with poems and lyrics, I can see him, I can see him, just picture him rollin!

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Postby Anthony A » Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:17 am

Well Makeveli was some sort of saint long long long ago and he faked his own death. Its something I heard ! I really do think he is alive ! I'm sure he was very un happy with where his life was heading !

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Postby HairyPirateBooty » Sun Feb 18, 2001 8:52 pm

I think he is very much alive.

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Postby Makaveli » Wed Apr 04, 2001 3:19 pm

Machiavelli was actually a 'Italian political and military theorist' he wrote a book called 'the art of war' and in this book he said something about fooling your enemy by faking your own death, this probably where all the 2pac alive rumors started up, check this site out which contains loads of Alive Theory Contradictions

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The site where i got this from is hitemup.comhttp://www.hitemup.com and it is great site for 2pac infomation

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Postby Lurker » Wed Apr 11, 2001 9:56 pm

My theory is that Suge Knight had him killed.

Sug is an evil m/fer!

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Postby Makaveli » Thu Apr 12, 2001 3:03 pm

Alot of people think Suge might of did it because he owed pac alot of money.  something like $15-$20 million and also pac was leaving death row because he started up a new record label.  in his contract it stated that he had to record three albums, and after the makaveli album was released he was free to go (All Eyes on me was a double album so it counted as two).  all the unreleased material would remain with death row if he died .  if you listen to the first 5 seconds of the makaveli album you hear some say 'suge shot me', an artist who pac was tight with also said that he knew that 2pac had made last minute changes to the intro and said he thought it was weird how that line got there.  knowing death row they probably put the line there themselves to rake in more cash.  i really want 2pac to be alive but i really do doubt that he is alive.  i think that the compton crip member (orlando anderson) had something to with it as well.

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Postby LesliakaLeelee » Fri Apr 13, 2001 12:00 pm

He's alive....right here <3 !!! but actually i think hes dead and u people just need to stop okay!!

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Postby Babygirlfmvegas » Fri Apr 20, 2001 4:50 pm

Ya neva know.....he coulda faked it and bought an island some dang where but if the man is gone may he rest in peace....mad props to Pac the greastest and most lyrical artist that has ever been and will ever be......
late and much love......

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Postby Makaveli » Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:01 pm

Quote: from Babygirlfmvegas on 10:50 pm on April 20, 2001[br]Ya neva know.....he coulda faked it and bought an island some dang where  but if the man is gone may he rest in peace....mad props to Pac the greastest and most lyrical artist that has ever been and will ever be......
late and much love......


i agree, i doubt he faked i though, he would have to tip off alot of people to do it though

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Postby MARILYN MONROE 2001 » Fri May 04, 2001 12:11 am

i agree with lurker i think suge had him killed since tupac was planning on leaving deathrow, that's why he did those record so fast. suge wanted him dead so he could release all of tupacs unrealesed material.

but i do question if he's alive, though. the reason i do is because tupac had even said himself that his life was not suppose to be this way and he did read makavelli, but he was going to start a new record label called that.n but anyway my theory about him faking his death is tha it is possiable. people do it everyday when they see an oppertunity to escape their lifes and strat over, it was done in england several years ago when there was a major train accident and no bodies were found but they discovered that the people had faked their deaths. the difference in that situation and this situation is those people didn't plan in they just seige the oppertunity in the moment , were tupac had time to plan it out when he was in jail and long before his death especially while he was reading makillveli ( how ever you spell it). did you peopel ever tihink why there was hardly any witnesses who saw it, except for one who died. come on were talking about a major city filled with alot of people and celebrities alot of people had to of saw it. the people who did most likely were and still are being paid off to keep quite and some have probley been killed. and why is it that tupac had his window down in the first place, when there's air conditioning in the car and he's been shot before, where were his security guards? why is it that suge didn't get hurt as badly, and why wasn't tupac just shot in the head? it was all planned ! most likely the fight that happened was arranged so the police and everyone else would have a reason why he could have been killed. and there was a photo tooken before he was shot to death where his car window was rolled down and he's next to suge, that was probley done so everyone will know that he had his window down when he got shot, but he probley rolled it up when they drove off and tupac got in the back and laid on the floor board while a fake tupac dummy ( that was made very realistic like a robot and had fake blood inside it) sat in the front and suge rolled the windw back down, then gun shots were fired, and there was probly a car next to suge and tupac snuck out before the shots were fired and he escaped un harmed. not only that but how come they're were no photos of him after he was shot? and of his funeral? lying in the hospital? do you peopel actually think that his family and friends weren't in on all of this, espeially his mother. if your child was being shot at would you not let them fake their death but as long as you knew they were safe and alive? i would.

come on people someone had to have vidoe taped it, people carry video cameras with them all the time, they can't car accidents on tape, some one had to have shot it on tape.
how did escape from being caught? well think about ti, he's rich he can do want ever he wants. illegal aliens come over to this country all the time and by fake citizen pack ats all the time, i know it's a movie but watch the movie coneheads, mr. conehead does exactly what tupac did. people do it all the time, they find the right people to hook them up with fake citizenship papers so they can be a memeber of the u.s.a then tupac probly moved to a small town were he can live under his knew identity and most likely people have came up to him and said he was tupac and he goes: no i'm such an such see here's my i.d., then that person feels stupid and apologizes and eventually everyone begins to know him as this new person so there is no need to call reporters.
not only that but he probly has a new studio in his house like every other rapper so he doesn't have to leave.

he's getting eerything he wants and that's to make music without peple harrassing him, him being arrested and shot at all the time, he still makes videos', he still has the number one album in the country, and people still love him. that's iwant he wanted in the beginning but he couldn't so he faked his death.
and to all the tupac followers who think that if he's still alive and he will return someday, then i have news for you : wake up because that is never going to happen, tupac was and still is a smart man he knows that if he were to come back tommarrow and say look everybody i'm not dead it was all fake, then he'll be arrested and sent to prison. it's against the law to fake your own death. so he's never going to return unless he's caught, but tupac and his people are to smart for that and planned this situation out very carefully.

not only that so people will think that he is dead they release a greatest hits ablum, some of his albums have new songs on them but remixes of old songs so people will think he's dead, and he releases ablums with other srtist performing his material. but yet this album is made up of unrealesed tupac songs, all new. do you see why he can't be dead, they release a new album with all new material because they know no one is going to believe he's alive now since yets been almost six years, that's why the past albums were mad the way they were so people would start to believe he was dead.

i hope what i wrote made sense. but hopefully you get my point. but most likely suge had him killed.

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Postby elmoie » Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:20 pm

He still lives within muh heart. He iz muh idol.He will live on.

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Postby Jesse Loves Pac » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:00 am

HES ALIVE......he talks abot biggies death, and he died before biggie. he talks about his own death. listen to his lyrics, Mackavelli was a French war strategist who was famous for faking his death to trick his enemy. why would Pac change his name to this. Makavelli wrote two books before died......there are two discs on the All Eyez On Me, what are they called? (book 1, book 2)

I LOVE YOU ' PAC, F*** THE HATERS, F*** BIGGIE

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Postby Jesse Loves Pac » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:11 am

monroe 2000 is soooooo wrong. have you heard of the 7 day theory? what time did tupac die? 4:03, why not 4:00? (4+0+3=7) he 'died' seven dayz after shot, on Don Kalumanoti, the producer said SIMON, in the Bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross after the reserection, RESERECTION. he died in '96, he will be back in 2003.

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Postby cuddly_angel84 » Wed Aug 14, 2002 4:07 pm

Man, Pac is alive, not only within our hearts but i mean he literally is alive. And although we all want him to come back, yo it aint happening, its illegal to fake your own death, and i think he has learned enough from prison and im sure he doesnt want to go back there again. he is a very smart and rich man and hell yeah he knows what he's doin. he knows that when he comes back, he wont have the respect from people that he has now, because everyone will think, sh*t n*gga u be doin this for money, faking your death and all?? naw pac wont do that, becuase he has more respect than any other rapper out there right now, and he doesnt wanna lose that trust me. i dont know though, maybe he regrets faking his death and everything, but he isn't comin back now cause its too late and if he comes back, im sure everyone will change their perspective of him and start to hate him. personally i dont think its "cool" to pretend you're dead and then pop back into the world and say i'm back! its not likely that he regrets it though, he has so much money and he has nothin to worry about cause none of his enemies are after him anymore like they were before, because they all think he's dead! there are so many things to prove that he is livin...dude u gotta hear God Bless the dead, before the song starts Pac says, "Rest in peace to my mothaf'a Biggie Smalls" now what do yall think that means?? 2pac was supposed to be dead 6 months BEFORE biggie, so what the hell man is he singin this song from his grave or something? no, he isn't, and that obviously means he is alive. I mean come on, think about it, read the whole 7-day theory, how come there were no witnesses? Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with Tupac shooting? Why would Pac be obsessed with all this Makaveli stuff, maybe he's takin his advice!! Machiavelli wrote two books before he died, look what the cd's on All Eyez on Me are called, Book 1 and Book 2. In his song called All Out, he says "And still avoid capture, while y'all caught up in the rapture, Still after me, I'm in Jamacia sippin daquiris, no doubt" so who knows? man he could be in jamaica for all i know! man that guy has enough money to buy himself an island!! Also in Blasphemy, he says "Brotha's getting shot and coming back resurrected." Man, hes tellin everyone all this, and he knows only the people who actually listen to him will understand that he is actually alive and everything was planned. And plus Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death. Also, why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers? another thing, since on the Makaveli album the producer's name is just written Simon, this could mean that Suge is simon cause Simon was the one who helped Jesus in his resurrection. Now yall gotta believe me, Tupac Shakur is alive!!!!!

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Postby i luv 2pac » Wed Sep 04, 2002 5:19 pm

[FONT=Geneva][B][COLOR=purple]actually makaveli faked his own death so that he could come back and kill all his enimies...so once he came back and killed them no1 knew it was him...and...if some1 fakes their death they cant come back until 7 years later so when makaveli came back after the 7 years he was no longer known as makaveli so no1 knew he was alive ..thats why he got away with it....so expect 2pac 2 come backin 2003 2 kill all his enimies..e.g p.diddy :rolleyes:

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Postby PitBullPrincess » Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:35 pm

He would NOT be arrested......read about laws. Oddly enough after you die there's 7 years after in which you can be charged, in case you aren't dead where you can still be arrested or jailed for any crimes you might have ran or faked death for. So if Tupac does come back after that there is NOTHING they can do to him, the law that is.

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Postby Kick-a$$ » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:31 am

I think he is dead...if he is alive I think that would be cool! did they find his body?

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Postby skulking » Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:06 pm

PitBullPrincess.

There is no statute of limitations for murder. So even if he did come back after seven years; he could still be charged with a crime.

Not saying that he is guilty or anything, because it is up to courts to prosecute and decide his fate. Not us

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Postby wazzap007 » Sat Nov 02, 2002 5:42 pm

Yes they found his body!
I even saw a picture of the autopsy on the web!
Wanna see?
I'll go find it!

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Postby wazzap007 » Sat Nov 02, 2002 5:51 pm

Here's the coroner report:
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In 1997, a photo was published that supposedly depicted Tupac Shakur's autopsy. It was obtained by reporter Cathy Scott and published in her book "The Killing of Tupac Shakur" The original source remains unknown.

For more information about the leaked autopsy photo, click here to read an investigative article published by the Las Vegas Sun.

The photo is very graphic and shows in gory detail Tupac's body, having been cut open on his chest and head during the autopsy.

Out of respect for Tupac, we will not post the autopsy photo on this site.

If you insist on viewing the photo, request it by entering your e-mail address and it will be sent to you by e-mail.

Update December 2001:

Mailing of the photo has been taken off-line temporarily. Please come back in two days to request the full color autopsy photo.

source: tupacfans.com/autopsy/index.phphttp://www.tupacfans.com/autopsy/index.php
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Here I finally found the pic!

WARNING: Very graphic

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Postby wazzap007 » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:52 pm

He co-produced it because he produced the songs when he recorded them.

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Postby xXSuperMonkeyXx » Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:35 pm

:stfu: all you ppl that think 2pac is died because he is tight

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Postby renee » Fri Feb 07, 2003 10:26 pm

i believe it's called statute of limitations....where after 7 yrs you can not be tried for a crime, except for murder...there is no statute of limitations for that.......

i don't know a lot of facts but this is so interesting and you guys all give great opinions....

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Postby stillfly_az » Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:29 pm

in think he is still alive because nobody except a few ppl say that they saw his bureal so i think he is alive

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Postby stillfly_az » Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:26 pm

he will return after the seventh year. after the fifth month on the third day. if u don't know what this means u don't know sh** about pac

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Postby 2livendienLA » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:09 am

I CHANGE MY OPINION........

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Postby 2livendienLA » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:28 am

OK THAT WAS JUST TO MUCH... PLZ PPL DON'T PUT SOMETHIN LIKE THAT ON THIS SITE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T THINK THEY CAN HANDLE SEEIN TUPACS DEAD BODY, THEN I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T CLICK ON THE LINK, IF UR JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF IT WAS REALLY HIM, SADLY, IT IS.

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Postby JesteR » Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:32 pm

brawl-hall.com/gallery/data/media/5/please_die.jpgtupac

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Re: Tupac... Alive or dead?

Postby monetmelly » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:07 pm

Tupac's alive for sure. Every month there is a new single? Come on

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Re: Tupac... Alive or dead?

Postby monaray3 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:32 pm

Let the Legend rest in peace. Why is his murder still unsolved??

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Re: Tupac... Alive or dead?

Postby KyleighJean082 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:51 pm

I'm the biggest Tupac fan ever, but I truly believe he is dead. And i think the conehead theroy is alittle outthere :D


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