Arwen Is At Helm's Deep

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Postby iluvorlandobloom » Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:29 am

I was watching TTT (for the 9th time :lol: ) and I thought I saw Arwen and her horse at Helm's Deep. Well, I looked around on the Internet, and sure enough, I wasn't the only person to notice. The first one looks pretty fake, but the rest look like they weren't altered... Here are some pics:
quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/arwen_helms_deep.jpgLook carefully at the horse

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt-145.pngAgain, look at the horse

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt-142.pngWow, I have a LOT of these...

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/ttt-135.pngI don't know what to call this

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/ttt-136.pngStupid title thingys...

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/ttt-137.pngOnly two more, I promise...

She even takes part in the charge (kind of)! There are only two white horses at Helm's Deep...Shadowfax and Legolas'. But check this out:
http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/horse1.pngArwen on a horse (again)

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/horse2.pngThe last one!

Two white horses. Notice how both riders look like Legolas? I think they shot themselves into a corner with Arwen taking part in the charge, so they digitally altered the figure on the horse.


Kinda kewl, huh? (Ah, how I miss American sayings...but ace is a awesome-possum word all the same.)

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Postby iluvorlandobloom » Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:50 am

Oh! I've got two more!

theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/5850Arwen's chair at Helm's Deep

http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/ttt/ttt-134.pngShe's clearly on the horse

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Postby PervyHobbitFancier » Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:47 pm

Nifty-cool. but did you know that Arwen wasnt supposed to be in the movies at all? all the parts she was in durring FOTR and TTT either were different people in the books, or not in the books at all. like in FOTR when she comes after frodo gets stabbed by the raith, its acctually a guy in the book. The only seen that she is supposed to be in isnt until ROTK. but now i have changed this post so it doesnt spoil stuff. cuz all ive said is that she is in ROTK, and not what she does in it, unlike before....but yeah.

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Postby Claire » Sat Jan 18, 2003 7:06 pm

You're not supposed to give spoilers. For the people who haven't read to the end. At least that's what I think? :shrug:

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Postby PervyHobbitFancier » Sat Jan 18, 2003 7:53 pm

oh my god! i didnt even notice i said that!! hmm... i think i can edit it out...but im so sorry! i didnt even notice i said that! :cry: oopsies

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Postby PervyHobbitFancier » Sat Jan 18, 2003 7:57 pm

ok, fixed it! i hope that only a few people that already knew that info read it...and if anybody did read that un-edited post, and HASNT read the books, im sorry that you had to see that, but, its better now for those that didnt.

once again...im soooo sorry!

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Postby Claire » Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:00 pm

Oh, don't bother! I've read! But I didn't know who was here at the moment, so I guessed I should point out. Sorry :)

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Postby Helena » Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:07 pm

I don' believe its her. Iooks like an extra to me. Neither in the books nor in the movie do they have Arwen actually at Helm's Deep.

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Postby iluvorlandobloom » Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:50 pm

You could beright. I justthought it looked suspiciouslylike arwen...i could bewrong. sorry, myspace baris broken and ihaveto poundonit for itto work...

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Postby Helena » Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:19 pm

They did change part of her role for ROK which one can read tolkienonline.com/movies/changes_rotk.cfmhere

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Postby PervyHobbitFancier » Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:54 pm

hmm...but back to the subject...It probably was just an extra that looks like liv.

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Postby Milla » Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:58 pm

personallly, i just thought they put in liv as arwen only because they wanted to make it more appealing to audiences who hae no clue about lotr book. they needed a female part in fotr, and arwen was the only sensible one to put in. thats what i think. i also think that truly, they didn't need her in the 1st. and wow! you guys really go into the details!!!!wew!

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Postby renee » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:36 pm

that's what i was going to say....you guys really do get into the details...but i guess that's what a story and the books like this are for......

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Postby PervyHobbitFancier » Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:56 pm

i dont think they should have givin arwen that big of a part, i mean, given her parts that werent hers. like when she's all, riding the horse, and running away from the nasgals with frodo, that wasnt supposed to be her, it was a guy elf in the book. and if they hadnt made it be arwen, they could have hd another pretty elf-boy in it.

grrr.... :angry:

oh well.

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Postby iluvorlandobloom » Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:22 am

Well, it wouldn't really be another pretty boy elf...more like Haldir. I think that's who it was who rescued Frodo. I might have to read FotR again. Correct me if I'm wrong! I remember PJ saying that the movie needed that element oof love and that Arwen was the perfect one to fill it. Once again, I could be wrong, but he said something like it.


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